The Incel Podcast

Through my casual interest in true crime and unsolved mysteries I learned that there's a relatively new podcast (I think a year or so old) called "The Incel Podcast". Despite my desire to put that part of my life behind me once and for all, I did listen to a few episodes just to see what it was all about and whether I would have anything of note to add to such an endeavor. 

Sometime during the course of this blog (probably sometime in 2011 or 2012) I became aware of the term "incel" and aware that there were websites, forums, and Reddit subs dedicated to people describing themselves as "involuntary celibate", or "incel". For a time I lurked and occasionally commented on the Forever Alone subreddit, but otherwise I never joined any sites dedicated to people who might be described as fellow travelers. The reason for this was quite simple: while I may have suspected that there was something inherently "wrong" with me that made me incapable of ever attracting a romantic or sexual partner, to the extent that getting out of my situation was possible, there was nothing of value to be gleaned from hanging around with other people like myself. Furthermore, whenever I did have the chance to interact with others like me, I never quite felt a connection with them. I know this is overgeneralizing, but many of them had no friends (female or male), they were big into anime and stereotypical "nerd shit", and had a disdain or disinterest in sports or athletic competition. Many had been bullied when they were younger, or were convinced that looks, or their height or some other aspect of their appearance was what held them back. I never felt that way, I always felt that my inexperience was the result of me "missing the window" so to speak in which most people go out and have their first dates, kisses, sex, etc., and that figuring out how to catch up was the key (whether that was possible or not was always the question). 

Again, I know I'm overgeneralizing, but even the culture that permeates the community makes me cringe, and probably would have made me cringe 10 years ago. Terms like "ascending" or "Chads", or "normies" don't jive with me, and just sound like cultish lingo. Perhaps it's because I'm too old and out of touch, and the things that might have once resonated with me have passed me by. 

I don't write any of this as judgement. Honestly, having support and a community you feel like you can trust and go to for discussion and venting is very valuable. It's unfortunate that so many incels can't (or feel as though they can't) find that through offline relationships. I'm glad someone like Naama Kates (who seems intelligent and receptive to learning) has taken on a project like the podcast. I'm only saying I don't feel a very strong connection or identity with them. 

The episodes I've listened to have made me go back and think about my past and how I ended up writing this lonely little blog at the edge of the internet. It's also made me confront some aspects of my personality that still permeate, but now manifest themselves in other areas of my life instead of dating and sex. It's worth checking out, and I do recommend it.

The Next Journey

While I figure out whether or not I will move to a new blog to discuss my newest crucible, I guess I'll start here with whatever audience I have left.

When I last left you dear readers in January 2015, I was working for an insurance agent. I would last only a few more months at this place before being fired. I know it's a cliche, but it was really was for the best, and while I believe my employer had a role to play in my "lack of progress" (the official stated reason for my dismissal), I honestly can't blame them for letting me go. I didn't understand my role or where I fit into the success of the agency. All I really did was collect a paycheck and do the bare minimum on a day-to-day basis.

I was unemployed for another 3 months before finding a job as a bank teller. While I made less money than I did at the insurance agency, I was working under a manager who saw my experience and my skill set and made it her mission to put me in a position where I can learn how to be successful in the financial sales world. In less than 6 months I was promoted to banker and I started to be much more successful than I had been before.

After more than a year in the role, my new manager (who was also very keen to keep developing me and putting me in positions to succeed and move up) left for a competitor bank. Very soon he referred me to take a position with a manager he had befriended at a branch much closer to my house. It was in this role I experienced more success than I ever had before. I exceeded my sales quotas, I received raving reviews from my manager, built a great reputation and everything seemed well and good.

But there was something lurking. A dissatisfaction, a desire for more. I was in the role for three years, but it didn't appear that moving beyond my role was on the horizon. I was making more money than I ever had before, but I was still paycheck to paycheck. Not content to simply wait for something to be handed to me, I looked into possible positions in the bank that I could apply for. There weren't any management positions in my area, and to be quite honest I wasn't really looking to become a manager. I ruled mortgage lending out, because it was commission-only and I didn't have enough money saved up to tide me over until I started closing loans. I found a handful of positions elsewhere in the bank that I thought I could do and applied for them, but no dice.

While looking internally for a change, I began to look externally as well. Starting in 2018 I had looked at making a switch into another industry. Since my wife worked in tech, I figured tech sales would be a natural spot. But, try as I might, I just couldn't manage to get anywhere.

Meanwhile, midway through 2019, the bank changed our bonus structure. We would now be paid to show our customers how to use the online banking system. We were only meant to show our customers 2-3 demonstrations per visit, but I figured why not show them more? Soon, I was showing them at least 10 per visit. In my mind, it seemed to me they were benefiting from an increased knowledge in the new technology, and I was getting something out of it too, win-win. Unfortunately for me, it was not win-win. At least not to the bank. After getting an impromptu reprimand from the regional coordinator, I was fired at the end of January.

To make matters worse, I had become persona non grata to my former manager, the same manager who had lavished praise on me for the previous three years. At my exit interview he offered to set me up with a MLM person he knew "to have some passive income" while I looked for another job. When I called him a few weeks later to ask if he could be a reference for me on a job application, he acted as if he didn't know who I was. Soon after, he deleted me from his LinkedIn connections.

Since then, I found myself working in tech. The only problem is I'm working as a help desk technician. And while I am making more money than ever before, I'm miserable. I don't like technical work. What's worse is it's a public sector contractor. I have zero private sector clients, so even if I wanted to eventually move up to a sales role, it would be in the public sector.

I've continued to apply for sales jobs, but to no avail. I had a few interviews that ultimately went nowhere, but the last of those was in early April. Back in March I had somebody reach out to me on another social media site and offer to help, but after our initial conversation he has dropped off the radar and I'm not one to beg anyone to help me. So I consider that option a dead end. I've reached out to other people on LinkedIn to try to do informational interviews or even just asking recruiters what skills or experience I should try to emphasize as I look to go in a new direction, but they too had zero interest in replying.

So, here I am. Ultimately straightened out my personal life, but my professional life is not anywhere near where I'd like to be. And I don't know how to fix it.

2020: An Update from the Apocalypse

I don't know if anyone reads this anymore. It's been five years and I've essentially broken the promise I made that I wouldn't just disappear. In my defense, I'm a superstitious person. When something is out of my control, I tend to remove it from the world of the rational and into the world of the supernatural. I believed that this blog and its contents, and the persona of The Inexperienced Guy, were toxic. That I had to let it go in order to embrace a new life. I've gotten better at being less superstitious, and honestly 99% of the time I'm very rational and a bit of a skeptic. Nonetheless maybe I'll regret coming out of retirement (if this is even me coming out of retirement). Who knows.

I'll start with the important stuff since I know everyone is tuning in for the obvious: Becky and I ended up getting married. 6 months or so after my last post. Is it a perfect relationship? Of course not, such a thing doesn't exist. But we're happy. I'm also now no longer a kissless, virgin who never had a girlfriend before.

I don't know what else to say other than that. I can say that I'm now much more confident around women (ironic, since it no longer matters). I guess it's one of those catch-22 type of things where you can't have confidence until you've got some experience, and you won't get experience without confidence. Somehow I managed to break the cycle.

Anyway, I just wanted readers to know I'm not dead. I'm doing well. I could probably manage to cut back on the bourbon and cigars, but otherwise I'm healthy and happy. I may come back and write here about other things. Maybe my career journey, which is currently in a valley (some of my own doing). I appreciate those of you who gave me advice, feedback, or even just those who commented on here over the years. It's been almost ten years since I started this blog, and if nothing else it's a great time capsule for me to go back and read my thoughts through the years.

Again thank you all.

Yours,

The Inexperienced Guy